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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<description>Barack Obama will make it and Amerika will show a new face to the world. Regards, Erik

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		<title>By: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz? - Page 3 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum</title>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] removed: Barack Obama&#8217;s Stirring 2002 Speech Against the Iraq War  However, this site doesn&#8217;t:Barack Obama&#8217;s Speech on Iraq &#8211; 2002 « The Good Democrat  Neither does this one: Brent Budowsky: Obama&#8217;s Speech Opposing The Iraq War &#8211; Politics on The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave W.</title>
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		<description>Joey, Arabs are Caucasians, genius (as are Turks and Persians, but they&#039;re not Arabs).  Get used to the term--PRESIDENT OBAMA!  Yeah, baby!</description>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to know where to start when everyone has a political agenda. 

To begin with, note in the 2002 speech by Obama - Barack Mohammad Hussein Obama - that he did mention that Hussein was dealing in chemical and biological weapons. As did the intelligence services of seven nations - as did Bill Clinton when he bombed Iraq in Desert Storm in his own words to &#039;get rid of Iraq&#039;s WMD&quot;. 

It seems Mr. Obama was okay with the 500,000 dead in the Civil war because it won Blacks their freedom from slavery. He was okay with WWII because we were bombed but he doesn&#039;t take into account the fact that the Democratic Adm of FDR did a great deal to anger Hitler (lend lease) and to entice the Japanese to bomb us so we COULD get into the war, justified or not. Of course FDR was a democrat so there you go. 

Obama also didn&#039;t mention that millions were killed in WWII or that we bombed two Japanese cities into near extinction or that Hitler tried to do the same to London etc etc. Wars are hell. 

Mr Obama who as far as I know has accomplished very little on the world scene, sets himself up as judge of what is a SMART war and which ones are DUMB war. These judgements are usually via hind sight since few wars that are won are considered dumb and few that are &#039;lost&#039; are considered smart. No comment on those in which we just cut and run which Democrats almost always recommend. 

Has Mr. Obama noticed that al Queda has been on the run for some time now? That many of their assets have been destroyed? That there is a strong possiblity that they have lost their foothold in Iraq? That the odds are good that OBL is dead and gone (see my website: &quot;Looking for bin Laden? Try the graveyards.&quot;) Or that unlike the Clinton years, there have no successful al Queda attacks on us or our friends since 2002?

You mentioned the half million that have died in Iraq. That would be laughable if the subject matter wasn&#039;t so serious and sad. Cut out the propaganda crap. To begin with, wars are hell. We all know that. People die, usually more civllians than military. We all should know that. And wars have been around for 3,500 years or longer and we all should know that too. Nations have armies and armies fight wars and in wars, people die. It&#039;s a civics class.

We dropped two A-bombs on two cities and killed almost a quarter million people in a week. People die in wars. If you want to rail against ALL wars, do so but let&#039;s not be so selective as to criticize only those which will help get us to get elected. 

The number of dead Iraqi&#039;s which includes many who were killed by their national compatriots, is set by an international observer group as under 100,000, a horrible number but far short of the half million you like to quote. That number is a farce concocted by an anti-war group trying to sell a pig-in-a-poke.

As I said, wars are hell. We lost half a million in our own Civil War. Were the half million dead Americans worth it? Today we&#039;d say sure. Then, maybe not. 

Are the 100,00 Iraqi dead worth it. If the country becomes a democracy with freedom and the right to vote for all its citizens, the people there will say &quot;yes&quot; in a few years as we say to all those many wars we engaged in since our inception.

As to American casualties, the war in Iraq has caused fewer deaths than any war in our history. One death is too many but then, people do die, wars or no wars.

Somtimes dying for something is not too bad. Lots of people die for nothing. Check the inner cities of America - mostly run by Democratic mayors. The kids killed there far outnumber the kids kiilled in Iraq. And as I said they died for nothing.

Colin Powell seems to talk out of both sides of his mouth but that doesn&#039;t matter because we all have opinions. And we can afford them because when we guess wrong, there are no penalties for us to pay. Unfortunately, Presidents don&#039;t have that luxury just as they don&#039;t have the luxury of hindsight. So they do what they do. 

Obama is a joke. He is a preacher and that&#039;s it. I read his speed in 2002 and I had to laugh. The only thing he did was to tell us all the problems of the world. We had 8 years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton - one from each party - and most of those problems including Iraq and WMD, existed througout both administrations. Solutions are anything but easy. You hear him say we need to free ourselves from the need for foreign oil while he supports those that prevent us from drilling our own oil thereby forcing us to send 400 billion dollars overseas every year. (Is that the reason for preventing us from drillining? The distribution of wealth from us to the rest of the world?)

But Obama know what to do: just avoid DUMB wars. Well folks, all wars are dumb. And all of our wars had people in favor and against them including the Revolutionary and the Civil war and both World Wars.  

As for places like Korea or Viet Nam or now Iraq, cutting and running has been advocated in every one of those conflicts and mostly by Democrats. Generally they hold it up as a badge of honor. (I think most of our wars were started with a Democrat in office.) 

You ask who was threatened by Hussein and Iraq? You must be kidding or you have a very selective memory. 

Was Iraq about to attack us? Nope. How about Israel? Who knows, he was developing weapons to reach that country and he didn&#039;t mind fighting with Iran. Who knows what a mad man might do. Plus one of Bill Clintons advisors on Iraq published a book in which she said Iraq intelligence wsa behind the first bombing of the WTC. 

Still if we could go back in time we might reconsider what we did or we might do it differently or better. Who knows? You have to be in that time and place and under those circumstances to know what you&#039;d do the second time around. 

Obama says he is not in favor of dumb wars but he is in favor of smart ones. Of course, only he knows which is which. And usually in hindsight. But I know and I will share it with you: smart ones are the ones you win and dumb ones are the one you lose or tie.  

Finally there is this: Radical fundamentalist Islam is our enemy. Most of this guy&#039;s family consists of Sharia-law radical Muslims. He alone is the Christian in the family. (I am not sure what his mother was or is, if she is alive. I do know she married two Muslims.) 

His background is why Obama refers to the &quot;Kingdom&quot; and once said: &quot;the call to prayers at sunset is the most beautiful time of the day&quot;. 

Muslims have the call to prayer at Sunset, do they not?

Look at England folks. Look at all of Western Europe. What is the biggest problem over there today? 

On February 8th, the Archbishop of Canterbury said: &quot;Sharia law in England is inevitable.&quot;

Omar Kadafi said: &quot;In fifty years, Europe will be a Muslim continent without a shot being fired&quot;. 

Back in the cold war, a Russian leaders 
said: &quot;The way to bring America to its knees is from the INSIDE&quot;.

Prophets all. 

Please excuse any typos. I don&#039;t feeling like proof-reading I am sick at what has happened to this once proud nation

We gave away our jobs, we gave away our heritage, we are now giving away our country. 

And the Caucasian race is dying all over the world. 

So how smart are we. 

Joey

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to know where to start when everyone has a political agenda. </p>
<p>To begin with, note in the 2002 speech by Obama &#8211; Barack Mohammad Hussein Obama &#8211; that he did mention that Hussein was dealing in chemical and biological weapons. As did the intelligence services of seven nations &#8211; as did Bill Clinton when he bombed Iraq in Desert Storm in his own words to &#8216;get rid of Iraq&#8217;s WMD&#8221;. </p>
<p>It seems Mr. Obama was okay with the 500,000 dead in the Civil war because it won Blacks their freedom from slavery. He was okay with WWII because we were bombed but he doesn&#8217;t take into account the fact that the Democratic Adm of FDR did a great deal to anger Hitler (lend lease) and to entice the Japanese to bomb us so we COULD get into the war, justified or not. Of course FDR was a democrat so there you go. </p>
<p>Obama also didn&#8217;t mention that millions were killed in WWII or that we bombed two Japanese cities into near extinction or that Hitler tried to do the same to London etc etc. Wars are hell. </p>
<p>Mr Obama who as far as I know has accomplished very little on the world scene, sets himself up as judge of what is a SMART war and which ones are DUMB war. These judgements are usually via hind sight since few wars that are won are considered dumb and few that are &#8216;lost&#8217; are considered smart. No comment on those in which we just cut and run which Democrats almost always recommend. </p>
<p>Has Mr. Obama noticed that al Queda has been on the run for some time now? That many of their assets have been destroyed? That there is a strong possiblity that they have lost their foothold in Iraq? That the odds are good that OBL is dead and gone (see my website: &#8220;Looking for bin Laden? Try the graveyards.&#8221;) Or that unlike the Clinton years, there have no successful al Queda attacks on us or our friends since 2002?</p>
<p>You mentioned the half million that have died in Iraq. That would be laughable if the subject matter wasn&#8217;t so serious and sad. Cut out the propaganda crap. To begin with, wars are hell. We all know that. People die, usually more civllians than military. We all should know that. And wars have been around for 3,500 years or longer and we all should know that too. Nations have armies and armies fight wars and in wars, people die. It&#8217;s a civics class.</p>
<p>We dropped two A-bombs on two cities and killed almost a quarter million people in a week. People die in wars. If you want to rail against ALL wars, do so but let&#8217;s not be so selective as to criticize only those which will help get us to get elected. </p>
<p>The number of dead Iraqi&#8217;s which includes many who were killed by their national compatriots, is set by an international observer group as under 100,000, a horrible number but far short of the half million you like to quote. That number is a farce concocted by an anti-war group trying to sell a pig-in-a-poke.</p>
<p>As I said, wars are hell. We lost half a million in our own Civil War. Were the half million dead Americans worth it? Today we&#8217;d say sure. Then, maybe not. </p>
<p>Are the 100,00 Iraqi dead worth it. If the country becomes a democracy with freedom and the right to vote for all its citizens, the people there will say &#8220;yes&#8221; in a few years as we say to all those many wars we engaged in since our inception.</p>
<p>As to American casualties, the war in Iraq has caused fewer deaths than any war in our history. One death is too many but then, people do die, wars or no wars.</p>
<p>Somtimes dying for something is not too bad. Lots of people die for nothing. Check the inner cities of America &#8211; mostly run by Democratic mayors. The kids killed there far outnumber the kids kiilled in Iraq. And as I said they died for nothing.</p>
<p>Colin Powell seems to talk out of both sides of his mouth but that doesn&#8217;t matter because we all have opinions. And we can afford them because when we guess wrong, there are no penalties for us to pay. Unfortunately, Presidents don&#8217;t have that luxury just as they don&#8217;t have the luxury of hindsight. So they do what they do. </p>
<p>Obama is a joke. He is a preacher and that&#8217;s it. I read his speed in 2002 and I had to laugh. The only thing he did was to tell us all the problems of the world. We had 8 years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton &#8211; one from each party &#8211; and most of those problems including Iraq and WMD, existed througout both administrations. Solutions are anything but easy. You hear him say we need to free ourselves from the need for foreign oil while he supports those that prevent us from drilling our own oil thereby forcing us to send 400 billion dollars overseas every year. (Is that the reason for preventing us from drillining? The distribution of wealth from us to the rest of the world?)</p>
<p>But Obama know what to do: just avoid DUMB wars. Well folks, all wars are dumb. And all of our wars had people in favor and against them including the Revolutionary and the Civil war and both World Wars.  </p>
<p>As for places like Korea or Viet Nam or now Iraq, cutting and running has been advocated in every one of those conflicts and mostly by Democrats. Generally they hold it up as a badge of honor. (I think most of our wars were started with a Democrat in office.) </p>
<p>You ask who was threatened by Hussein and Iraq? You must be kidding or you have a very selective memory. </p>
<p>Was Iraq about to attack us? Nope. How about Israel? Who knows, he was developing weapons to reach that country and he didn&#8217;t mind fighting with Iran. Who knows what a mad man might do. Plus one of Bill Clintons advisors on Iraq published a book in which she said Iraq intelligence wsa behind the first bombing of the WTC. </p>
<p>Still if we could go back in time we might reconsider what we did or we might do it differently or better. Who knows? You have to be in that time and place and under those circumstances to know what you&#8217;d do the second time around. </p>
<p>Obama says he is not in favor of dumb wars but he is in favor of smart ones. Of course, only he knows which is which. And usually in hindsight. But I know and I will share it with you: smart ones are the ones you win and dumb ones are the one you lose or tie.  </p>
<p>Finally there is this: Radical fundamentalist Islam is our enemy. Most of this guy&#8217;s family consists of Sharia-law radical Muslims. He alone is the Christian in the family. (I am not sure what his mother was or is, if she is alive. I do know she married two Muslims.) </p>
<p>His background is why Obama refers to the &#8220;Kingdom&#8221; and once said: &#8220;the call to prayers at sunset is the most beautiful time of the day&#8221;. </p>
<p>Muslims have the call to prayer at Sunset, do they not?</p>
<p>Look at England folks. Look at all of Western Europe. What is the biggest problem over there today? </p>
<p>On February 8th, the Archbishop of Canterbury said: &#8220;Sharia law in England is inevitable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Omar Kadafi said: &#8220;In fifty years, Europe will be a Muslim continent without a shot being fired&#8221;. </p>
<p>Back in the cold war, a Russian leaders<br />
said: &#8220;The way to bring America to its knees is from the INSIDE&#8221;.</p>
<p>Prophets all. </p>
<p>Please excuse any typos. I don&#8217;t feeling like proof-reading I am sick at what has happened to this once proud nation</p>
<p>We gave away our jobs, we gave away our heritage, we are now giving away our country. </p>
<p>And the Caucasian race is dying all over the world. </p>
<p>So how smart are we. </p>
<p>Joey</p>
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