War In Iraq Worsens Terror Threat

September 24, 2006 at 12:59 am | Posted in America, American politics, Iraq, King George, Republicans, War on Terror | 12 Comments

How about that? Isn’t that what we’ve been saying all along? Now intelligence agencies are agreeing with Democrats who were against the war from the beginning, saying that the War in Iraq is a distraction from the real war on terror, and from what I personally have been saying, that our actions in Iraq are increasing terrorist attacks rather than decreasing them.

The classified National Intelligence Estimate attributes a more direct role to the Iraq war in fueling radicalism than that presented either in recent White House documents or in a report released Wednesday by the House Intelligence Committee, according to several officials in Washington involved in preparing the assessment or who have read the final document.

The intelligence estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal of global terrorism by United States intelligence agencies since the Iraq war began, and represents a consensus view of the 16 disparate spy services inside government. Titled “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States,’’ it asserts that Islamic radicalism, rather than being in retreat, has metastasized and spread across the globe.

An opening section of the report, “Indicators of the Spread of the Global Jihadist Movement,” cites the Iraq war as a reason for the diffusion of jihad ideology.

The report “says that the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse,” said one American intelligence official.

I remind you what Porter Goss said in February 2005 about the war in Iraq as an aide in helping recruit terrorists.

“Islamic extremists are exploiting the Iraqi conflict to recruit new anti-U.S. jihadists,” CIA Director Porter J. Goss told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

Com’on America! See the writing on the wall. The Bush Administration is not protecting you! Republicans are not protecting you! The more we “stay the course” in Iraq, the worse it will be for us.

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  1. Hmm, perhaps your memory is only spans five or six years. Don’t worry, I’m here to help 😎

    Please read this post, so you may be enlightened with the actual truth, because I am afraid that either, you are ignorant on the facts, or are in denial about reality, in reality’s terms.

    You also said that the Democrats “were against the war from the beginning“.

    This is also factually incorrect. The funny thing about blogs is that anyone can sound like they actually know what they are talking about. I suggest that you do a bit more research next time.

  2. Brent,

    Thanks for stopping by. I read your “Rules of Engagement” and am surprised with your post here on my blog. On your blog you say, “I ask that you keep your insults to yourself,” but yet you come on my blog and insult me.

    I have no problem discussing what Democrats said, and what they didn’t say. I have no problem criticizing them for not taking a stronger stance from the beginning on the war in Iraq, as I did.

    I do also find it interesting that instead of commenting on the real issue of this post, the war in Iraq increasing terrorism, instead of decreasing, you divert attention somehow back on the Democrats. How Rovian of you.

    What say you? Let’s talk about Bush and why it is that terrorism has increased and that wars seem to be more frequent these days than before Bush came to power. Let’s talk about this in the context of World War II. Bush and his supporters like to bring up World War II as their moral justification. Well….just how long did it take for Roosevelt to completely destroy vastly more superior forces than cave-dwelling terrorists? Three and a half years. How many years has Bush had now to defeat terror? Five years. Why is the terror threat increasing rather than decreasing? Or do Bush and his supporters only cherry-pick what they like about WWII as a comparison, but refuse to discuss the other aspects?

    Please, let’s have a debate. But please respect your own rules, Brent, and don’t insult me.

  3. I did not insult you. If the truth insults you, that is your problem. Saying that your facts are incorrect, are not insults.

    Also, instead of talking about WWII, how about WWIII, since this is it?

  4. Brent,

    this is going to get silly, but this is your insult:

    Hmm, perhaps your memory is only spans five or six years. Don’t worry, I’m here to help

    You insult my memory.

    Stick with the facts without being insulting. Wasn’t that the point of your “Rules of Engagement?” After all, you do say, “Just remember to be nice please.” It is not nice to insult someone’s memory.

    So why has Bush not defeated terrorism yet?

  5. Since the worst attack by al-Qaida happened before Iraq, I fail to agree with your point. Since the planning for the attacks happened years before Bush was President, I can therefore conclude that this assertion cannot possibly be true.

    What this is, is a political argument –Democratic policies vs. Republican policies.

    There were plenty of attacks before Bush.

    What I see in all of this, is not a debate to better fight the war, but rather an attempt to remove Bush from office. That is, what it is –bottom-line.

    Since I am not a Republican, I do not defend Bush, based upon political policies, but rather in the fact that at least he understands that terrorism is a problem that needs to be defeated by force and action. You fight fire with fire, not fire with water. You cannot negotiate with these barbarians –as Clinton has recently suggested.

    In other words, taking the fight to the terrorists, rather than sitting and waiting for another attack, then fight here, and/or trying diplomatic solutions with those who behead non-believers of their fake religion (twisted from a real and respectfully true religion –Islam) far better protects American citizens.

    I refuse to accept that America is causing terrorism. Have we caused al-Qaida, Hamas, and Hezbollah to launch attacks around the world? It is absurd, especially since they have been doing this for far more years than Bush has been in office.

    If terror is getting worse because of us, perhaps it shows that the terrorists are becoming more desperate to kill us, and there only useful tactic is by suicide bombings against the innocent.

    The fact is, that we brought the war to them, instead of fighting this war here.

    What this means is that we Americans put America first.

    Perhaps you will also see things this way, that we should be united by putting America first, just as we did in WWII.

    Speaking of WWII, the only reason that we were able to annihilate Germany and japan as we did was because of our unity, and the fact that we had actual geographic countries who we called our enemies.

    WWIII, is a war of ideology, not geography. Furthermore, this is a far more dangerous war, due to the fact that technology has increased so much.

    I wish that people such as yourself could put your political differences aside, and instead embrace the necessary unity America needs and deserves to defeat an enemy that hates us all, regardless of political party affiliation.

    If it were Gore instead of Bush, would you blindly criticize him? I’m pretty sure i can answer this for you, given the title of your blog.

  6. Brent,

    as dictator of my blog, I’ve edited out all your insulting comments. Now your response looks pretty decent, and worthy of debating. Also, I find it interesting that you erased my comment on your blog, but still feel like commenting on my blog. Can’t stand the heat in your home?

    What I see in all of this, is not a debate to better fight the war, but rather an attempt to remove Bush from office. That is, what it is –bottom-line.

    Yes, I want Bush removed from office, because in the end, his policies are not protecting America. They may look like they are, but they actually are making more enemies. If he cannot defeat our enemies, then he must be removed and we get someone who can. It is that simple.

    Since I am not a Republican, I do not defend Bush, based upon political policies, but rather in the fact that at least he understands that terrorism is a problem that needs to be defeated by force and action. You fight fire with fire, not fire with water.

    We all understand that terrorism is a problem that needs to be fixed. How is the question that we differ on. In the analogy of fighting fire, no, the best way to fight fire is to stop the oxygen that feeds the fire. Adding to the fire only destroys more.

    Oh, and if you say we are fighting fire with fire, then are you equating our military actions to terrorist strikes? Fire is fire is fire, right? If we use fire to fight fire, are we not the same as terrorists?

    You cannot negotiate with these barbarians

    You actually can, and in fact, the US military in Iraq has been negotiating with many in attempts to lessen the amount of attacks. Some groups have signed aboard with the United States, while others haven’t. One thing to remember about this world is that we are all human beings. No human being is a cockroach, an animal, a savage, a beast, or anything sub-human. The more we label human beings as such, the easier it becomes for us to kill them. We then become the savage beast.

    I refuse to accept that America is causing terrorism.

    I haven’t said that we cause terrorism. Terrorists are accountable for their actions. But if we act in a manner which causes more people to become our enemy, then we have to change our strategy, or in the end, we will lose.

    I wish that people such as yourself could put your political differences aside, and instead embrace the necessary unity America needs and deserves to defeat an enemy that hates us all, regardless of political party affiliation.

    I wish so too. But when I make a suggestion and I get labeled as a terrorist lover, I have a hard time being united with that individual……

    If it were Gore instead of Bush, would you blindly criticize him? I’m pretty sure i can answer this for you, given the title of your blog.

    my criticism of Bush is not blind, thank you. I see perfectly clear how he is bamboozling America. 😉

  7. I never called you a terrorist lover. Where in the world did you get that from?

    I removed all comments about the video, because too many of them became flamer comments. I posted the video only to expose an obvious liar. if you want to believe the liar’s lies, that is your problem.

    But if we act in a manner which causes more people to become our enemy, then we have to change our strategy, or in the end, we will lose.

    That sounds very cowardly to me. Did we change our American ways because the Nazis threatened us? No, we crumbled them.

    I do not think that you fully understand what we’re dealing with. This is a clash of civilizations. I have no problems with peace loving Muslims. I do have a problem with those who want to behead you or me, because we don’t believe.

    I attribute the increase in terror not to America, but to those who do not take a stand against it in the first place.

    Liberalism aside, you must be firm against those who wish to destroy you, otherwise, those people will always find a way to get you.

    You want Bush removed from office? Um, does the word democracy mean anything to you? He won an election. Get over it. In ’08 you will have your chance to vote for your liberal guy. Until then, try being a decent American. You do not have to agree with every policy of the president to at least grant him the decency of the respect he deserves for being in the position that he is –your president.

    Did you agree with everything that Clinton did? I certainly don’t. I happen to like the guy, but I am honest enough to point out a blatant lie when I see one, regardless if I like the guy or not. It is widely known that Clinton had the opportunity to apprehend bin Laden and he was too chicken to take responsibility for it. This is by far his worst failure as president. He actually had him captured, and did not bring him to justice. Now you want to blame Bush for Clinton’s mistake?

    I’m not suggesting that 9/11 might not have happened anyway, but I am specifically speaking about bin laden himself.

    The Democrats are committing suicide if they think that they can be elected back to a majority on a “Bush Sucks” policy. This does not actually give any incentive for an alternative when it comes to policy.

    Like I said, I hate that you and others have made this war a political debate it sickens me to the core. We are all Americans, and as Americans, hated thoroughly by those who wish to destroy us and our children by the millions, if and when it becomes possible. If we choose not to stay on the offensive in this war, it will be the downfall of our society.

    We are dealing with a truly evil enemy –on the scale of the Nazis and the soviet Communists. They want us gone off of the earth.

    Get it yet???

  8. Brent,

    I removed all comments about the video, because too many of them became flamer comments.

    uh…..it was only my comment that you erased! you really are hilarious!

    I attribute the increase in terror not to America, but to those who do not take a stand against it in the first place.

    Liberalism aside, you must be firm against those who wish to destroy you, otherwise, those people will always find a way to get you.

    ah, the typical, “your criticism only emboldens terrorists” take. Nice straw man. Can you point to where I said anything that supports terrorism? You can’t. I find it the most ironic thing that people like you and Dick Cheney claim that terrorists are emboldened by our democratic process! Oh the ironies. On the one hand, you and Cheney want to see democracy at work, but on the other, you’d rather not see it at work in your own country!

    You want Bush removed from office? Um, does the word democracy mean anything to you?

    like I said, irony.

    There are democratic means to remove someone who has violated the Constitution.

    The Democrats are committing suicide if they think that they can be elected back to a majority on a “Bush Sucks” policy. This does not actually give any incentive for an alternative when it comes to policy.

    We have provided alternatives, but as always, and as proven by your own post, unless we follow your plan, somehow we’re supporting terrorists. There are alternative ways to defeat terrorism.

    This is What I would have done after 9/11 to defeat terrorism. And I believe my strategy would have already brought us peace, unlike Bush’s strategy which has increased terrorism around the world.

    Like I said, I hate that you and others have made this war a political debate it sickens me to the core.

    Again with the irony. It is not I who has politicized the debate over national security. It is not I nor “others” who are threatening voters with death if they voted for Democrats!

    We are dealing with a truly evil enemy –on the scale of the Nazis and the soviet Communists. They want us gone off of the earth.

    Know thine enemy, Brent. Obviously you don’t, but are hyping them up to the level of truly dangerous enemies, because you have to find some way to gain support for failing policies. But the reductio ad Hitlerum won’t work.

  9. You continue to suggest that I claim you support terrorism. I have never said this.

    I have not politicized anything. You have, and your entire blog has done so.

    I am not even a Republican. However, I happen to realize what we face. Know thine enemy? You do? What about 9/11 (which happened to take a friend of mines life)? This is REALITY! You still don’t get it? Your enemy seems to be Bush. Bush is not the enemy. He is trying to protect you, which is far more than I can say for some. His policies have had flaws, as have all policies from all leaders, in the history of mankind. However, you are painting the false picture that we cannot win this war. You would be wrong in that assertion, sir. We are winning the war, and we will continue to be winning, so long as we keep fighting it. Also, you should recognize that we did not start this war. Our enemy did, years before 9/11.

    And don’t bring Christianity into it. I happen to be a devout Catholic. Speaking of Catholicism, the Pope himself has been threatened for merely making a speech. Yet IslamoFascist radicals can behead people, and receive far less criticism. How does that make a shred of sense?

    There is no convincing someone like yourself –hard-headed with tunnel-vision (remove Bush no matter what).

    And I did not just remove your comment. There were many, hateful and racially obscene comments that were removed. How on Earth would you know what is in my own Dashboard? Perhaps you don’t realize that I moderate comments, purposely for this reason. I thought you said you read the rules.

    I will assume that the real truth does not matter to you –only your own truth. So much for being a Mormon huh?

    I read your solution to 9/11. It is flawed, primarily because it is based upon the assumption that if we capture or kill bin Laden, that all of the terrorism will just go away. I suppose that you are unaware of Iran’s support for terrorism, as well as many other countries, including Syria, Sudan, Indonesia, etc. What you fail to grasp is that this is a global war –WWIII.

    You can bark and moan all you want. You can claim that you are not politicizing the war, and I am. This does not speak for the truth however.

    I am calling for American UNITY to win this war. You, on the other hand, want to blame Republicans only. Nevermind that America was also attacked on Clinton’s watch. Nevermind that our enemy does not give a rat’s behind whether or not you or I are Republican or Democrat. They hate all of us. HATERED –this is what you fail to recognize in this enemy. This does not mean that we should hate them back. I don’t. But I do hate evil, as the Bible commands us to do. And our enemy is evil.

    Psalm 97:10
    Proverbs 8:13
    Romans 12:9

    Being the Christian that you claim to be, I assume that you already know this, and choose not to do this.

  10. Brent,

    I read your solution to 9/11. It is flawed, primarily because it is based upon the assumption that if we capture or kill bin Laden, that all of the terrorism will just go away.

    Where did I make that assumption? That is your straw man, the fake liberal you keep raising up to punch down. Never did I say by focusing solely on Afghanistan that all our problems would go away. Nice straw man. And proof yet again, that when offered an alternative, a Bush supporter derides it as “soft on terror.”

    However, I happen to realize what we face. Know thine enemy? You do? What about 9/11 (which happened to take a friend of mines life)? This is REALITY! You still don’t get it? Your enemy seems to be Bush. Bush is not the enemy. He is trying to protect you, which is far more than I can say for some. His policies have had flaws, as have all policies from all leaders, in the history of mankind. However, you are painting the false picture that we cannot win this war. You would be wrong in that assertion, sir. We are winning the war, and we will continue to be winning, so long as we keep fighting it. Also, you should recognize that we did not start this war. Our enemy did, years before 9/11.

    Bush is not America’s enemy, but Bush’s actions undermine America’s cause, and I will continue to forcefully show it. Like any bad leader, if his policies are failing, he needs to be fired. Gone. Out of office. I care more about protecting this country than about keeping leaders in power, and if my leader does not choose strategies that provide us a victory, I want him out!

    Yes, the enemy is Bin Laden. He masterminded 9/11. Ask yourself why Bush said it is not a priority for him to get Bin Laden. You pick the 9/11 attack to portray the enemy, but then agree with your president that it doesn’t matter if we get the man who masterminded it. That’s like saying you don’t want to get the man who robbed you, but go on a crusade to stop robbers. The one who robbed you still gets away from justice. Hello!

    And no, we are not winning this war, as is proven by this NIE, as is proven by the fact that in Iraq alone, our soldiers are getting hit nearly 900 times a week! a continued upsurge in violence is not the direction of victory, and if you think it is, then you are delusional.

    And don’t bring Christianity into it.

    Where did I bring Christianity in my last comment?

    I suppose that you are unaware of Iran’s support for terrorism, as well as many other countries, including Syria, Sudan, Indonesia, etc. What you fail to grasp is that this is a global war –WWIII.

    You and other Bush supporters do have a lot in common with Islamic-terrorists. Did you realize that? Only you two groups see this as a world war. The rest of this world just wants to live in peace.

    Being the Christian that you claim to be, I assume that you already know this, and choose not to do this.

    Actually, I think I am practicing it very well. Love your enemies. Do good to them that curse you. Is that not what the Savior also taught? How much love do you share with your enemies, Brent?

  11. You pick the 9/11 attack to portray the enemy, but then agree with your president that it doesn’t matter if we get the man who masterminded it.

    Really? That’s what I said? Hmmm. wrong! It appears that you see what you want to see, not what people actually say.

    And besides, you ought to feel the same way about Clinton then, since he too did not capture or kill bin Laden. Oops, he tried, and that’s all that matters, correct?

    Dude, its a matter of actions vs. words. This is one thing that liberals that I talk to never seem to grasp. Words are meaningless without action to support them. Nice try though.

    Who said I’m a Bush supporter? I’m an America supporter.

    I put America first, before other countries. My Grandfather who was a hero in WWII granted me this freedom.

    I feel truly sorry for you that your worldview is so twisted. You are part of the Blame America First crowd, admit it.

    You aren’t fooling anybody.

  12. Brent,

    And besides, you ought to feel the same way about Clinton then, since he too did not capture or kill bin Laden. Oops, he tried, and that’s all that matters, correct?

    Actually I do. He did fail, and I have no problem admitting this. Do you have a problem admitting that Bush has, to this point, also failed in getting Bin Laden?

    Words are meaningless without action to support them.

    Right….except of course, when one action chosen ends up harming us in the end. Sorry, Brent, but there are more ways to deal with terrorists than Bush’s plan.

    You are part of the Blame America First crowd, admit it.

    Straw man.

    Just curious, if you don’t feel like you will ever convince me, just why do you keep posting on my blog?


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