Republicans Use Islamic Strategies

October 31, 2006 at 10:59 pm | Posted in American politics, Democracy, Iraq, King George, Republicans, War on Terror | 14 Comments

Oh the irony! John Kerry makes a comment that might be construed as a disparaging remark on education and military service in America, and Republicans cry like babies (and rather similar to all those Muslims who decried the Danish cartoon, Jack Straw’s veil comments, etc.), demanding apologies for daring to offend……oh the irony.

The real reason they are pouncing so hard on this one itty bitty comment is that they wish to distract America from the real problem: American soldiers dying in Iraq for…..what exactly? Republicans don’t really want to answer that question, so anything to deflect.

Just one more week of this nonsense.

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  1. So because you don’t agree with the fact that we are fighting a war in Iraq you DO agree with disgracing and insulting our troops who were never involved in the decision to go there?

    Interesting. Probably a reason why your party won’t gain control of the house in one week.

  2. politicaldishonesty,

    Our troops are volunteers who out of their own free will choose to join the army. Many, including people like Pat Tillman, freely chose to join the army after 9/11 to specifically go to Iraq.

    My sister happens to be in Iraq right now. I’m fully supportive of her, but yes, this fight is a lost cause. Saying so does no dishonor to the troops, but definitely dishonors those who decided to start this war.

    And in regards to Kerry’s comment, it is pretty accurate and realistic. If you don’t go and get your education, your chances of going to Iraq will be far greater, because, well, there’s not much else for you to do in America except join the Army, if you don’t get an education. It is tough, I know, for some to hear this, but just like Muslims who decried the Danish cartoons and the Pope’s comments, and Jack Straws veil comments, you gotta stop playing the victim….well, actually Bush and his supporters are not really playing the victim, but they certainly are blowing up smoke.

  3. Daniel:

    In regards to your comments about our troops being volunteers:

    Why are they volunteers only when you want them to be? It seems that when you talk about bringing them home and how they don’t want to be there and how they shouldn’t be dying there it SLIPS YOUR MIND that they are in fact volunteers. Am I right?

    It is your opinion that this war is a lost cause. Many Americans were of the opinion that WWII was a lost cause; it doesn’t make them right. If my guess is correct you don’t have the qualifications to determine if this war is a lost cause or not, neither do the blogs you get your talking points from. Am I right?

    Kerry’s comments are far from accurate and realistic. The majority of people fighting in Iraq are people who wanted to join the military specifically to benefit their country and a lot of them are there trying to get money FOR college. The MINORITY of those fighting in Iraq are uneducated, unsuccessful people who couldn’t find anything else to do. And they are a VERY SMALL minority.

    Obviously you are defending him. There is nothing more to say as your view speaks for itself. Your readers can see your blatant disrespect and I’m sure your sister does as well. That is truly sad to see.

  4. by the way…being a religious democrat is completely contradicting in itself. You should figure yourself out before you start trying to figure others out.

  5. politicaldishonesty,

    Many Americans were of the opinion that WWII was a lost cause; it doesn’t make them right.

    Can you show me evidence of this, please. I’ve seen evidence to the contrary, and I would like to know where you get this information from.

    Why are they volunteers only when you want them to be? It seems that when you talk about bringing them home and how they don’t want to be there and how they shouldn’t be dying there it SLIPS YOUR MIND that they are in fact volunteers. Am I right?

    Hey, they volunteered to join the army, they don’t volunteer where they get to go and for how long. I’ve never said anything to the contrary.

    If my guess is correct you don’t have the qualifications to determine if this war is a lost cause or not, neither do the blogs you get your talking points from. Am I right?

    Actually, as a citizen of this country, I do have those qualifications because I get to decide which candidate I want to represent me. Thus, it is imperative that I be well informed. One of the disturbingly unfortunate things about modern politics is how little Americans really know about what is going on in the world around them. Having a bachelor’s in International Politics, I know somewhat of what is going on in the world around me.

    Obviously you are defending him. There is nothing more to say as your view speaks for itself. Your readers can see your blatant disrespect and I’m sure your sister does as well. That is truly sad to see.

    Hey, it’s your choice. You’re obviously jumping on the overblown bandwagon. Enjoy your trip.

  6. being a religious democrat is completely contradicting in itself.

    Obviously an “informed” Republican posting on my blog…..

  7. Political dishonesty,
    The Mormon Church does not teach that it is incompatible with out religion to be a democrat. Indeed, President Faust is a democrat, as was one of our greatest teachers, Hugh Nibley, before he died recently. It is encumbent upon us to find good people in whatever party they belong to and give them our support as we judge according to the light which we have received.
    As far as this war goes, it’s not really a cause at all, let alone being a lost cause or a won cause. What it is, is a bloodbath with 655,000 excess deaths in Iraq since the beginning of the war in 2003 according to researchers at Johns Hopkins. We need to get our soldiers out of there, volunteers or not, uneducated or not, as our presence there is exacerbating the violence as the head of the British Military in Iraq recently stated. Also, since the majority of Iraqis support attacks on US troops according to recent polls, we should recognize that when the population we are supposed to be protecting wants to kill us, it is time to leave. When you can’t tell the enemy from the civilian population, you’re definitely in the wrong war. May we get out of Iraq soon.

  8. If you are a Christian then you have to be with the Democrats in 2006.

    After six years of one-party rule, we are stuck in a country where we have no business. Hundreds of thousands of people have died due to the occupation.

    At the same time, there are some forty million Americans without health insurance. A couple of million kids don’t have enough to eat. Wages are worth less and less but the super rich are making more money than ever before.

    Republicans have some nerve talking about religion. They are worshipping self-indulgence and greed and don’t give a second thought to American children and the working poor. Whatever religion they are practicing, it certainly isn’t Christianity.

  9. Daniel;

    So you are qualified to analyze military strategy and declare it ineffective simply because you are a citizen?

    Interesting. I guess everyone is an expert.

  10. politicaldishonesty,

    now you are moving the goal posts. A military strategy is merely a tool for the larger political strategy. If the larger political strategy is a failure, it doesn’t matter how good the military strategy is; the whole will fail. Our military is quite good at what they do. Unfortunately, the political leaders did not give them a good sound mission, and no matter how hard they tried, the military could not, and still cannot win this because the political strategy is a failure, and was so from the beginning.

  11. Curtis,

    When you can’t tell the enemy from the civilian population, you’re definitely in the wrong war.

    well said. I’ve seen so much evidence that even now, after three and a half years, Americans in Iraq still can’t tell much about the culture or even their mission…..

  12. hellmut,

    Republicans have some nerve talking about religion. They are worshipping self-indulgence and greed and don’t give a second thought to American children and the working poor.

    well said. Bush promised not to pass on our troubles to future generations, but that is exactly what Republicans have done with the way they have managed the government these past six years.

  13. Over on Andrew Sullivan’s blog, one of his readers pointed out what I was saying, that Kerry’s comments were quite accurate. Read it. Very insightful.

  14. Fake outrage, that’s what John Derbyshire calls Republican huffs and puffs at Kerry’s comments. Well said.


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